East Leagues

Joint EWL and EML Management Meeting: Thursday 16th February 2006
Rutland Arms Hotel, Newmarket

 

Present

Russell Nutter

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Pritpal Sagoo

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Janet Goody

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Chris Kime

 

Mike Huckerby

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Sarah Mann

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Cliff Gulbis

 

Richard Munns

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Rosemary Prince

 

David Burt

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Robert Southgate

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Steve Mayhew

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Jim Morris

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Trevor Williams

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Ros Marsh

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Chair

Russell Nutter

 

Apologies

Chris Kime, Rosemary Prince

 

ERHA

The Chairman welcomed Ros Marsh, President ERHA, to the meeting.

 

1.       Minutes of previous meeting.

There were no issues arising.

2.       Correspondence

2.1.       Chris Kime had given notice of his retirement from his League Manager role at the end of this season.  The Committee expressed its best wishes to Chris and its thanks for eleven years of enthusiastic commitment and sterling service to the League and its teams throughout the north-west area.

A new League Manager  will be sought as soon as possible (TW).

3.       League structure and organisation

4.       League structure and organisation

4.1.       Agreed that promotion and relegation numbers in small divisions can be excessive under present rules, e.g. 3 up and 3 down from a division of only seven teams.  Rule 6 will be redrafted to give the Committee the authority to reduce promotion and relegation numbers in smaller divisions when appropriate (TW).  To be finalised at the next meeting.

4.2.       Noted that there was likely to be some growth in indoor hockey in future seasons, and agreed that if the number of postponements in Premier divisions became excessive, those divisions would not have East League fixtures on key indoor dates.  This could be accommodated by extending a Premier division season or by reducing the size of the division.  However, this is not an immediate issue.

4.3.       Agreed that to progress towards divisions of 12 teams, EWL promotions and relegations at the end of 06/07 should be amended as shown below.  There was also scope to merge and simplify elements of Rule 6 regarding promotions etc , and a draft proposal will be prepared for the next meeting (TW).  This would also refer to pro rata calculations for relative rankings in smaller divisions.

 

Division

Promotion

Relegation

Premier

1

3

Division 1N and 1S

2 each

2 each

Division 2C, 2N, and 2S

5 in total: 3 champions

plus 2 best runners-up

1 each

County Leagues & Five Counties League: 7  promoted to East

 

5.       2005/6 preliminaries

5.1.       League dates EWL:  23 Sept - 9 Dec, 13 Jan - 27 Jan, 17 Feb – 31 Mar

5.2.       League dates EML:  23 Sept - 9 Dec, 20 Jan - 24 Mar

5.3.       Website information on venues & times: to remain mandatory for all divisions covered by pool umpires.  Other divisions to be encouraged to use the system (most already do).

5.4.       A request from Sudbury that they play in EML NE was agreed and will be actioned in next season’s fixture list (RM).  Noted that this may lead to extra promotions or relegations in some divisions.

5.5.       Noted that to avoid three teams in one division in 05/06 St Ives Men would decline a promotion.

6.       Finance

6.1.       Fines so far this season total around £1500, most of which has been collected.  Note that extra income from fines is used by ERHA to support young umpire initiatives.
It is increasingly obvious that switching to £10 fines instead of point deductions for late results and teamsheets in the Men’s League has caused an increase in late reporting.   Clubs in the Women’s League perform much better.  Agreed that the AGM be asked to reverse the rule change and have point deductions in the EML as before.

6.2.       Note that the Leagues’ share of the cost of the East 05/06 League Handbook had risen to £1500, compared to £1000 in the previous season.

7.       Playing issues

7.1.       The wording of Rule 3.2.4 had caused some confusion with regard to goalkeepers doubling up in matches.  Reference to the 04/05 wording made clear that the use of a doubled-up GK should not preclude the use of field substitutes.  A typing error in the current rules causes confusion.  Agreed that for the purposes of interpretation, line 2 immediately following para (c) should read “Doubling up of field players in this way….” instead of “Doubling up of players in this way….”.

7.2.       Noted that regretfully Bourne 5 have had to withdraw from the league through lack of numbers.

7.3.       The current suspension of the EHL Premier Divisions means that starred players in East League clubs are unable to play any significant hockey, leading to problems of player retention.  This issue will be raised at England Competitions Committee (TW).

7.4.       A complaint by Romford HC regarding an EML match vs. Havering 2 on 21st Jan was discussed.  Agreed that the match result was valid.  Romford to be advised (JM).

7.5.       Noted that some clubs agreeing postponements between themselves.  All to be reminded via the website that the League Manager is the only person who can grant a postponement.

8.       Umpiring & discipline

8.1.       A complaints form for use by umpires to East League matches to be drafted.  This will include comments on attitude, hospitality, pitch condition, etc.  Completed forms will be emailed to Steve Mayhew who will liaise with the League Manager on issues raised (SM).  Teamsheets for 06/07 to be amended accordingly, for example by removing the hospitality Y/N comments (which are very rarely used by umpires anyway). (TW).

8.2.       Noted that Herts & Beds HUA has reported the probable demise of its pool in 06/07 following the retirement of the Pool Secretary.  Agreed that any consequent issues affecting League umpiring should first be considered by ERHUA, though noted that existing league rules can manage most of the outcomes of such a situation (SM).

8.3.       L1 progress in counties:  ERHUA is currently surveying developments necessary to support the proposed rule change.  (SM)

8.4.       Cards so far this season:  EML:  18R, 650Y;  EWL:  1R, 44Y.  These figures are slightly down on those from the same period last season.

9.       Possible rule changes for 2005/6

9.1.       Agreed to propose to the AGM that all matches in EML Prem A , Prem B, Div 1 and Divs 2 and all matches in EWL Prem and Divs 1 must be scheduled to start between 11 am and 3 pm in Nov, Dec and Jan.  This should ensure minimal need for floodlights in pool umpired divisions. 

9.2.       Completion of the rule changes in 5.2 agreed in 2005 for 06/07 is dependent on the outcomes of the review

9.3.       The requirement for fixture cards to be submitted to the league was thoroughly discussed and the requirement was confirmed.  To provide greater clarity, it was agreed that the rule be split into a guideline on card contents and a rule requiring provision of a card (in whatever format) to the league.

10.    Presentation Day and AGM 200

10.1.    Subject to availability, the venue was agreed to be Redbridge & Ilford on June 4th.  Arrangements with the facility to be put in hand immediately (PS).  Action:

·         liaise with venue re timetable & catering:  PS

·         trophies return, purchase, engraving:  RN

·         pennants:  PS

·         certificates:  TW

·         VIP invitations:  SM

·         AGM agenda & papers:  TW

10.2.    League Rule 8.6 now requires clubs to return trophies by the end of March, subject to a £50 fine.  Clubs to be reminded via the website to return cups to DB (EML) or SM (EWL).

11.    East Management

11.1.    Following The success of the East Regional Indoor Tournament and the Indoor National finals, some growth in indoor is to be expected, with consequent clashes in fixture priorities between indoor and outdoor hockey.  Noted that the League dates for 06/07 do not clash at all with the East indoor tournament.  Clashes with national indoor will be dealt with as usual by postponements (see also minute 4.2 above).
Wisbech HC had failed to pay the entry fee and non-appearance fine for the recent East indoor, despite several reminders.  Under League Rule 2, debtors to ERHA can be suspended from the East Leagues and will lose all matches during the suspension period.  The club will therefore be given one week’s notice to pay or be suspended (TW).

 

12.    AOB and Correspondence not covered elsewhere

12.1.    RM will be away on the final Saturday of the season, March 23rd, and also the following slip Saturday.  EML Prem A, Prem B, and Div 1 clubs will be advised to phone results into RS on those weekends.  TW will input all EML results into the website for the two Saturdays.

 

13.    Future meetings:  20th April:  Rutland Arms Hotel